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11 February 2012 18:42 h
Call or raise?
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Flush
Flush
15 December 2009 07:53 h

Table #22844955 - Confucius Say
Starting Hand #1089825426
Start time of hand: 14 Dec 2009 21:22:01
Last Hand #1089822817
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
Button is at seat 6
Seat 1: Raphales - $28.96
Seat 2: whateverman - $26.55
Seat 3: TRIBALIST - $30.49
Seat 4: justtyle - $13.52
Seat 5: Godlikepoker92 - $5.95
Seat 6: bebel18 - $6.28
Seat 7: EYPEKA - $6.15
Seat 8: psychoflush - $4
Seat 9: megazis - $25
Seat 10: killno - $12.39
Moving Button to seat 7
psychoflush posts small blind ($0.10)
megazis posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing

7 of clubs ace of clubs to whateverman
killno calls $0.25
Raphales calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $1.25
TRIBALIST folds
justtyle folds
Godlikepoker92 folds
bebel18 calls $1.25
EYPEKA folds
psychoflush folds
megazis folds
killno folds
Raphales calls $1.25
Dealing Flop 7 of hearts ace of spades jack of clubs
Raphales bets $2
whateverman
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Moderator
Moderator
15 December 2009 09:32 h
Id call here, donkbets are often medium strength hands like a weak ace or a J, you`ll make these hands fold if you raise and you also would like to temp bebel to see a turn card
Three of a Kind
Three of a Kind
15 December 2009 10:58 h
i agree. chances are, you are way ahead.
Poker Pro
Poker Pro
16 December 2009 10:15 h
Calling flop and reraising turn sounds good. Rerasing flop sounds good as well. You're committed with this hand, so you just have to figure out the best way to get it all-in.
Moderator
Moderator
16 December 2009 10:18 h
how do you think the presence of the 3rd player on this flop affects the decision to call or raise?
Flush
Flush
16 December 2009 10:33 h
I wanted to raise here but there was long pauses between other players actions and like japmaster said about 3 players in the hand I was concerned about a set and didnt raise but still called of course

Table #22844955 - Confucius Say
Starting Hand #1089825426
Start time of hand: 14 Dec 2009 21:22:01
Last Hand #1089822817
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
Button is at seat 6
Seat 1: Raphales - $28.96
Seat 2: whateverman - $26.55
Seat 3: TRIBALIST - $30.49
Seat 4: justtyle - $13.52
Seat 5: Godlikepoker92 - $5.95
Seat 6: bebel18 - $6.28
Seat 7: EYPEKA - $6.15
Seat 8: psychoflush - $4
Seat 9: megazis - $25
Seat 10: killno - $12.39
Moving Button to seat 7
psychoflush posts small blind ($0.10)
megazis posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing

7 of clubs ace of clubs to whateverman
killno calls $0.25
Raphales calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $1.25
TRIBALIST folds
justtyle folds
Godlikepoker92 folds
bebel18 calls $1.25
EYPEKA folds
psychoflush folds
megazis folds
killno folds
Raphales calls $1.25
Dealing Flop 7 of hearts ace of spades jack of clubs
Raphales bets $2
whateverman calls $2
bebel18 calls $2
Dealing Turn queen of clubs
Raphales bets $1
whateverman calls $1
bebel18 raises to $3.03 (all-in)
Raphales calls $3.03
whateverman ?
Moderator
Moderator
16 December 2009 10:56 h
I dont like your call here, the bet is 2 small and the board got a lot more drawy. Id put in a decent raise here, about $9 or so. If Raphales shoves I would call
Poker Pro
Poker Pro
16 December 2009 12:34 h
I would reraise all-in.
Flush
Flush
17 December 2009 10:36 h
Well I figured that if I raised he would only call with bettter. If I do raise then what can he fold really?
River is nothing and then a veryr suspiciious bet..1 doller into like 16? call behind or shove? I really feel like I am beat here so I just called. What do you all figure the hands were?

Table #22844955 - Confucius Say
Starting Hand #1089825426
Start time of hand: 14 Dec 2009 21:22:01
Last Hand #1089822817
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
Button is at seat 6
Seat 1: Raphales - $28.96
Seat 2: whateverman - $26.55
Seat 3: TRIBALIST - $30.49
Seat 4: justtyle - $13.52
Seat 5: Godlikepoker92 - $5.95
Seat 6: bebel18 - $6.28
Seat 7: EYPEKA - $6.15
Seat 8: psychoflush - $4
Seat 9: megazis - $25
Seat 10: killno - $12.39
Moving Button to seat 7
psychoflush posts small blind ($0.10)
megazis posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing

7 of clubs ace of clubs to whateverman
killno calls $0.25
Raphales calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $1.25
TRIBALIST folds
justtyle folds
Godlikepoker92 folds
bebel18 calls $1.25
EYPEKA folds
psychoflush folds
megazis folds
killno folds
Raphales calls $1.25
Dealing Flop 7 of hearts ace of spades jack of clubs
Raphales bets $2
whateverman calls $2
bebel18 calls $2
Dealing Turn queen of clubs
Raphales bets $1
whateverman calls $1
bebel18 raises to $3.03 (all-in)
Raphales calls $3.03
whateverman calls $3.03
Dealing River 3 of hearts
Raphales bets $1
whateverman calls $1
Poker Pro
Poker Pro
17 December 2009 12:01 h
Id still shove all-in unless your very very sure you're beat.
Flush
Flush
20 December 2009 20:45 h
I wanted to ship it but it just felt like one of those cold hands. For the most part I dont raise A7s especially at a full table and this is why. I think I got out pretty cheap anyway.

Table #22844955 - Confucius Say
Starting Hand #1089825426
Start time of hand: 14 Dec 2009 21:22:01
Last Hand #1089822817
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
Button is at seat 6
Seat 1: Raphales - $28.96
Seat 2: whateverman - $26.55
Seat 3: TRIBALIST - $30.49
Seat 4: justtyle - $13.52
Seat 5: Godlikepoker92 - $5.95
Seat 6: bebel18 - $6.28
Seat 7: EYPEKA - $6.15
Seat 8: psychoflush - $4
Seat 9: megazis - $25
Seat 10: killno - $12.39
Moving Button to seat 7
psychoflush posts small blind ($0.10)
megazis posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing

7 of clubs ace of clubs to whateverman
killno calls $0.25
Raphales calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $1.25
TRIBALIST folds
justtyle folds
Godlikepoker92 folds
bebel18 calls $1.25
EYPEKA folds
psychoflush folds
megazis folds
killno folds
Raphales calls $1.25
Dealing Flop 7 of hearts ace of spades jack of clubs
Raphales bets $2
whateverman calls $2
bebel18 calls $2
Dealing Turn queen of clubs
Raphales bets $1
whateverman calls $1
bebel18 raises to $3.03 (all-in)
Raphales calls $3.03
whateverman calls $3.03
Dealing River 3 of hearts
Raphales bets $1
whateverman calls $1
Taking Rake of $1.07 from pot 1
Raphales shows jack of hearts ace of diamonds
Raphales has Two Pairs: Aces, Jacks
whateverman mucks
Raphales wins $2 from side pot #1 with: Two Pairs: Aces, Jacks
bebel18 shows king of spades 10 of diamonds
bebel18 has Straight, Ace high
bebel18 wins $18.37 with: Straight, Ace high
Raphales claps.
Moderator
Moderator
21 December 2009 17:52 h
nice flop call with a gutshot and no implied odds by bebel
Flush
Flush
22 December 2009 16:12 h
Same old short stacking BS that im used to
Poker Pro
Poker Pro
22 December 2009 17:00 h
Gonna make you a lot of $$$ in the long run
Flush
Flush
27 December 2009 15:42 h
It seems to be the very very long long run. I like to play somewhat tight and take in less pots but bigger ones. If I step out of line I usually end up getting burned and tell myself afterwards that I shouldnt have called in the first place. This I can get over. If I dont step out of line and really stick to my game I can play for 2 hour session and be up about 40 -50 BB per table and then always take a seriously crappy beats to short stacking players. Since I have started posting histories here I have been monitoring a little better and a large majority of short stacking players always get me and run away. Because of their stack sizes I cannot fold alot of hands preflop or postflop. Anyways I think Im only going to play full stack tables from now on. I will post a cluster of this shortie bad beat BS Im talking about soon and I am almost certain that majority of players are playing it the same way. I have tried the min raising but at my stakes its alot less effictive.


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