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24 May 2012 22:33 h
How much should I raise here?
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Flush
Flush
8 December 2009 10:29 h
[hand]Table #22634847 - Garden of Isis
Starting Hand #1080976517
Start time of hand: 08 Dec 2009 05:02:22
Last Hand #1080975723
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
Button is at seat 4
Seat 1: fishmaster13 - $25
Seat 2: izzyhigh - $6.30
Seat 3: swp1980 - $21.84
Seat 4: patandy111 - $9.88
Seat 5: whateverman - $53.75
Seat 6: MagicMace - $0 (away from table)
Seat 7: trickywizard - $33.53
Seat 8: PokerAddiction - $24.99
Seat 9: ericnoell1 - $13.75
Seat 10: moflush2 - $8.17
Moving Button to seat 5
trickywizard posts small blind ($0.10)
PokerAddiction posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Qs Qh] to whateverman
ericnoell1 calls $0.25
moflush2 folds
izzyhigh calls $0.25
swp1980 folds
patandy111 calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $1
trickywizard folds
PokerAddiction folds
ericnoell1 calls $1
izzyhigh calls $1
patandy111 calls $1
Dealing Flop [7s 9s 3c]
ericnoell1 bets $0.25
izzyhigh calls $0.25
patandy111 calls $0.25
whateverman -?[/hand]
Three of a Kind
Three of a Kind
8 December 2009 12:06 h
got to love 3 callers of your raise. even better are the $0.25 bets into a pot of $4.35. so the pot now has $5.10. i would raise to $3.50-$4. if someone OTT, fold to the trips.
Moderator
Moderator
8 December 2009 14:43 h
NobleTruths posted
got to love 3 callers of your raise. even better are the $0.25 bets into a pot of $4.35. so the pot now has $5.10. i would raise to $3.50-$4. if someone OTT, fold to the trips.


what does OTT mean?

The small stacksizes of your opponents make this an easy decision I think, I would raise to about 3/4 of the pot.

I would also reraise more preflop normally, standard is 3 to 4 BB plus 1 BB per limper, so in this case somewhere around 1.50 - 1.75. In this situation its ok to raise less though, because your opponents have small stacks, so you need to raise less to deny them the implied odds to call your raise.
Three of a Kind
Three of a Kind
8 December 2009 14:53 h
OTT = Over The Top.....usually describes a massive raise.
Moderator
Moderator
8 December 2009 15:10 h
ahh ok..but I don`t think folding is an option here given the small stack sizes of villains, if they push all-in the odds will make for a mandatory call
Flush
Flush
9 December 2009 09:41 h
I was hoping for 1 caller when I made this bet

Table #22634847 - Garden of Isis
Starting Hand #1080976517
Start time of hand: 08 Dec 2009 05:02:22
Last Hand #1080975723
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
Button is at seat 4
Seat 1: fishmaster13 - $25
Seat 2: izzyhigh - $6.30
Seat 3: swp1980 - $21.84
Seat 4: patandy111 - $9.88
Seat 5: whateverman - $53.75
Seat 6: MagicMace - $0 (away from table)
Seat 7: trickywizard - $33.53
Seat 8: PokerAddiction - $24.99
Seat 9: ericnoell1 - $13.75
Seat 10: moflush2 - $8.17
Moving Button to seat 5
trickywizard posts small blind ($0.10)
PokerAddiction posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing

queen of spades queen of hearts to whateverman
ericnoell1 calls $0.25
moflush2 folds
izzyhigh calls $0.25
swp1980 folds
patandy111 calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $1
trickywizard folds
PokerAddiction folds
ericnoell1 calls $1
izzyhigh calls $1
patandy111 calls $1
Dealing Flop 7 of spades 9 of spades 3 of clubs
ericnoell1 bets $0.25
izzyhigh calls $0.25
patandy111 calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $5.60
ericnoell1 calls $5.60
izzyhigh folds
whateverman is thinking.
patandy111 calls $5.60

What the hell do these guys have Im thinking
Moderator
Moderator
9 December 2009 10:10 h
well given that they have short stacks they`re probably bad players, and they might be getting good odds. Id say they can have anything from a FD, OESD, TP, or a set. TT+ is unlikely given the preflop limp.
Poker Pro
Poker Pro
9 December 2009 13:37 h
Get it in against probably big fishes, if they have you beat, just a cooler.
Flush
Flush
9 December 2009 18:54 h

Table #22634847 - Garden of Isis
Starting Hand #1080976517
Start time of hand: 08 Dec 2009 05:02:22
Last Hand #1080975723
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
Button is at seat 4
Seat 1: fishmaster13 - $25
Seat 2: izzyhigh - $6.30
Seat 3: swp1980 - $21.84
Seat 4: patandy111 - $9.88
Seat 5: whateverman - $53.75
Seat 6: MagicMace - $0 (away from table)
Seat 7: trickywizard - $33.53
Seat 8: PokerAddiction - $24.99
Seat 9: ericnoell1 - $13.75
Seat 10: moflush2 - $8.17
Moving Button to seat 5
trickywizard posts small blind ($0.10)
PokerAddiction posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing

queen of spades queen of hearts to whateverman
ericnoell1 calls $0.25
moflush2 folds
izzyhigh calls $0.25
swp1980 folds
patandy111 calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $1
trickywizard folds
PokerAddiction folds
ericnoell1 calls $1
izzyhigh calls $1
patandy111 calls $1
Dealing Flop 7 of spades 9 of spades 3 of clubs
ericnoell1 bets $0.25
izzyhigh calls $0.25
patandy111 calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $5.60
ericnoell1 calls $5.60
izzyhigh folds
whateverman is thinking.
patandy111 calls $5.60
Dealing Turn 4 of clubs
ericnoell1 bets $0.25
patandy111 calls $0.25
whateverman raises to $47.15 (all-in)
ericnoell1 calls $7.15 (all-in)
patandy111 calls $3.28 (all-in)
Returning $40 to whateverman uncalled
patandy111 shows 7 of clubs jack of clubs
shows queen of spades queen of hearts
ericnoell1 shows 8 of clubs 9 of clubs
Dealing River 8 of spades
Taking Rake of $1.94 from pot 1
PokerAddiction has received 3 additional seconds in the time bank [15 total seconds]
whateverman has One Pair: Queens
ericnoell1 has Two Pairs: 9 of spades, 8 of spades
ericnoell1 wins $7.74 from side pot #1 with: Two Pairs: 9 of spades, 8 of spades
ericnoell1 wins $29.30 with: Two Pairs: 9 of spades, 8 of spades
patandy111 acknowledges a nice hand.
Seat 1: fishmaster13 - $25
Seat 2: izzyhigh - $5.05
Seat 3: swp1980 - $21.84
Seat 4: patandy111 - $0
Seat 5: whateverman - $40
Seat 6: MagicMace - $0
Seat 7: trickywizard - $33.43
Seat 8: PokerAddiction - $24.74
Seat 9: ericnoell1 - $37.04
Seat 10: moflush2 - $8.17
End Of Hand #1080976517

patandy111 rebuys $5


Definetly a slight cooler and definetly my own fault for not raising enough pre.
Moderator
Moderator
9 December 2009 20:44 h
lol well good job you put in a good raise on the flop you were way ahead...typicall fishy play doesnt matter how much you bet, they just can`t let go of their hand when they hit a weak top pair or even a middle pair.
Flush
Flush
10 December 2009 18:12 h
He didnt keep his stack very long I got about 14 back off him and he donked the rest awayt oother players. Good notes for next time though..he cant always hit the river.


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