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22 May 2012 23:31 h
NL25 KK vs 3bet allin preflop
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Straight
Straight
19 November 2009 03:05 h
I was wondering if this was a good call. I thougth it was (KK is not a bad hand to end all in preflop) but maybe having in mind this villan´s stats it could be a mistake since I didn´t invest too much in the pot so far and his range is pretty much AA, KK
What do you think?

Hand History for Game 8623392324 (Party)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 18, 01:21:10 ET 2009
Table Jackpot 1464858 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 9: ATI101 ( $26.11 USD ), Seat 2: hero ( $25.57 USD ),Seat 5: FreeZi200 ( $24.25 USD ), Seat 1: Heiklt ( $5.07 USD ),Seat 3: Nussiiik79 ( $4.49 USD ), Seat 8: Ruslana333 ( $4.60 USD ). Seat 6: Tiel4real888 ( $7.50 USD )

Seat 7: egjoer ( $29.33 USD )STATS: 13/10 STEAL% 21 / 3BET% 3,3 / AGG 3,8 in more than 3K hands

Seat 4: zztom65 ( $5.42 USD )


Ruslana333 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Heiklt posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
zztom65 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
Dealing down cards
Dealt to hero [

king of hearts king of clubs
hero raises [$1.00 USD]
Nussiiik79 folds
zztom65 folds
FreeZi200 calls [$1.00 USD]
Tiel4real888 folds
egjoer raises [$29.33 USD]
Ruslana333 folds
Heiklt folds
hero calls [$24.57 USD]
FreeZi200 folds

Dealing Flop

[ 10 of diamonds, 4 of diamonds, jack of spades

Dealing Turn

[ 3 of spades

Dealing River

[ 9 of hearts
hero shows king of hearts, king of clubs
egjoer shows ace of clubs, ace of hearts
egjoer wins $3.76 USD from main pot
egjoer wins $49.61 USD from main pot
Three of a Kind
Three of a Kind
19 November 2009 08:50 h
IMHO, if u dont know someone's stats, i feel the call is correct. i have seen donors at the lower tables do similar with AK/AQ/A-rag(lol). In the long run, you have great ROI. cooler of AA or badbeat can happen against the donks, but...that is poker. if someone is almost assuredly to have AA/KK for that push, however, you must fold. your ROI will be big-time negative. why battle over one dollar? Would be interested to see what others who are wiser than me have to say.
Flush
Flush
19 November 2009 09:49 h
Usually I dont like to invest that much of my stack without seeing the flop but really I would make the call myself too. Even if the hand was played differently post flop I belive the money is still going in. Tough break but I think you will win with KK pre more than you lose.
Straight
Straight
19 November 2009 13:47 h
Thanks for the answers guys!
I agree, with no data on the player, it is an easy call, there are a lot of players making this kind of moves with TT+, AQ, AK in these levels. What makes me think it could be a bad call are villan stats. They are on the hand but here they are again
STATS: 13/10 STEAL% 21 / 3BET% 3,3 / AGG 3,8 in more than 3K hands

Looking at these stats, it is not hard to say that he is holding AA/KK or making a tottally crazy bluff, so maybe the smartest choice was to fold.
Anyway, I must say I am not such a good and selfcontroled player as to fold KK preflop
Moderator
Moderator
19 November 2009 18:28 h
this is a no brainer, never fold KK preflop in a cash game! (barren some extreme situations were you have an extremely good read on villain)

Make a note that this player 3bet shoves AA preflop


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